Comments on: Episode Five: This is Not Human Nature http://thisiswherewetakeourstand.com/?p=245 An IVAW Winter Soldier Project Sun, 05 Sep 2010 06:23:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: mikemcd http://thisiswherewetakeourstand.com/?p=245&cpage=1#comment-516 mikemcd Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:17:46 +0000 http://thisiswherewetakeourstand.com/?p=245#comment-516 When I was 20 the leaders sent us off to war. I knew many of us were assuming that when we were the elders we would never do this to young men and women... how wrong I was. The power-hungry greedy that ran this country back then have been replaced by new power-hungry greedy. The world was behind America destroying those that caused 9/11, but our power-hungry greedy elders decided that Iraqi oil was more important and that American lives and Iraqi lives were expendable for the cause, more wealth. After the invasion in 2003 I walked into a small grocery to get some gum and noticed a TV was on and had footage of the Iraq war. I was hypnotized by what I saw, American media NEVER showed anything like what was on this TV, a moment later I noticed the channel banner said it was a European station. Our media continues to let us down. The American media is complicit with the power-hungry plutocrats that illegally started the Iraq war. It is ironic that those that raise the bible when preaching war are doing just the opposite of the teachings of Jesus. Michael Moore's movie on Capitalism was another nail in the govt coffin for me. It is time that we take a stand, a full-scale nationwide strike, every job, every city... stay home, until the troops are home. When I was 20 the leaders sent us off to war. I knew many of us were assuming that when we were the elders we would never do this to young men and women… how wrong I was.

The power-hungry greedy that ran this country back then have been replaced by new power-hungry greedy. The world was behind America destroying those that caused 9/11, but our power-hungry greedy elders decided that Iraqi oil was more important and that American lives and Iraqi lives were expendable for the cause, more wealth.

After the invasion in 2003 I walked into a small grocery to get some gum and noticed a TV was on and had footage of the Iraq war. I was hypnotized by what I saw, American media NEVER showed anything like what was on this TV, a moment later I noticed the channel banner said it was a European station. Our media continues to let us down. The American media is complicit with the power-hungry plutocrats that illegally started the Iraq war.

It is ironic that those that raise the bible when preaching war are doing just the opposite of the teachings of Jesus. Michael Moore’s movie on Capitalism was another nail in the govt coffin for me. It is time that we take a stand, a full-scale nationwide strike, every job, every city… stay home, until the troops are home.

]]> By: Rob http://thisiswherewetakeourstand.com/?p=245&cpage=1#comment-509 Rob Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:39:51 +0000 http://thisiswherewetakeourstand.com/?p=245#comment-509 While I sympathize with the frustrations expressed by these brave & courageous women, it is so completely absurd to say that women who fought in Angola or other military units throughout the world did not face the same situations of sexual harassment, rape or violence. It is unfounded if not wildly speculative, her words do not fit the facts. Many women, as with child soldiers, are forcefully pulled into military ranks and sometimes witness the execution of their families. Look at what happened to Jamie Leigh Jones, a contractor raped by her co workers, (read about it!) and when Sen. Al Franken proposed an amendment to the 2010 Defense Appropriations bill that would withhold defense contracts from companies like KBR, 30 Republicans voted against it. The brutality of war perpetuates these terrible situations, whether it be woman, families or men, everyone suffers. People should be held accountable, sure, but the very act of engaging in war is to abandon our morality. We have laws against murder in the States, yet we condone and support the murder of thousands of innocent people when it has a patriotic fervor of red, white & blue. Does it really surprise anyone that this happens.... though I guess the US population has had their heads stuck in the ground with billboard dreams and plastic patriotism for so long, it just may come as a surprise, though they easily and quickly change the channel. And the war continues. While I sympathize with the frustrations expressed by these brave & courageous women, it is so completely absurd to say that women who fought in Angola or other military units throughout the world did not face the same situations of sexual harassment, rape or violence. It is unfounded if not wildly speculative, her words do not fit the facts. Many women, as with child soldiers, are forcefully pulled into military ranks and sometimes witness the execution of their families.

Look at what happened to Jamie Leigh Jones, a contractor raped by her co workers, (read about it!) and when Sen. Al Franken proposed an amendment to the 2010 Defense Appropriations bill that would withhold defense contracts from companies like KBR, 30 Republicans voted against it.

The brutality of war perpetuates these terrible situations, whether it be woman, families or men, everyone suffers. People should be held accountable, sure, but the very act of engaging in war is to abandon our morality. We have laws against murder in the States, yet we condone and support the murder of thousands of innocent people when it has a patriotic fervor of red, white & blue. Does it really surprise anyone that this happens…. though I guess the US population has had their heads stuck in the ground with billboard dreams and plastic patriotism for so long, it just may come as a surprise, though they easily and quickly change the channel.

And the war continues.

]]> By: Brandon http://thisiswherewetakeourstand.com/?p=245&cpage=1#comment-508 Brandon Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:00:22 +0000 http://thisiswherewetakeourstand.com/?p=245#comment-508 Where is the coverage. Is CNN and MSNBC and the So-called real news organizations paying ANY attention? We need to wake congress the F up! Military industrial complex had their time. War profiteering needs to be ENDED. Where is the coverage. Is CNN and MSNBC and the So-called real news organizations paying ANY attention? We need to wake congress the F up! Military industrial complex had their time. War profiteering needs to be ENDED.

]]> By: Vet http://thisiswherewetakeourstand.com/?p=245&cpage=1#comment-63 Vet Wed, 09 Sep 2009 13:39:17 +0000 http://thisiswherewetakeourstand.com/?p=245#comment-63 It's really important that people hear these stories. How can we truly expect our military to act justly to potential enemies (as most people in Iraq and A-stan are considered) if they cannot even treat their fellow service members justly? The military problems with sexual harassment and assault spoken of here are just the tip of a far uglier camo'd iceberg. It’s really important that people hear these stories. How can we truly expect our military to act justly to potential enemies (as most people in Iraq and A-stan are considered) if they cannot even treat their fellow service members justly?

The military problems with sexual harassment and assault spoken of here are just the tip of a far uglier camo’d iceberg.

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